"The reality is this: the fight against ISIS is going to be ongoing when Barak Obama leaves the White House. There is no Hollywood ending to this thing. It's not going to be quick, easy or cheap," says Aaron David Miller in this interview.
Does the NSA make us safer? Were Snowden's leaks good for the U.S.? Jane Harman discusses these questions with former NSA Director Gen. Keith Alexander and the ACLU’s Anthony Romero during MSNBC's first "Great Debate" from the Aspen Ideas Festival.